Jamil Zaki: Tuning Your Empathy Fork
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Episode 8 of The Art of Asking Everything: Jamil Zaki: Tuning Your Empathy Fork is out now wherever you get your podcasts.
Empathy is very hard to talk about nowadays without – poetry intended – pissing someone off. It’s easy to empathize with people we like and “get”, but what about people we can’t stand? What about having empathy for your right-wing, QAnon-supporting, openly racist uncle? What about having empathy for someone who hurts you, your family, your friends? My guest this week is Jamil Zaki, a professor of psychology at Stanford University, the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab, and the author of a fantastically needed book called The War For Kindness: Building Empathy in a Fractured World. Drawing from our life experiences, we dive deep into the engine room of kindness, empathy and why it’s more necessary than ever right now.
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Amanda Palmer presents an intimate conversation with Jamil Zaki, recorded remotely on April 11, 2019 in Woodstock, NY and Stanford, CA.
Jamil Zaki is a professor of psychology at Stanford University and the director of the Stanford Social Neuroscience Laboratory. By combining psychology and neuroscience, Jamil and his colleagues study how empathy works, and ultimately how we can empathize with each other more effectively.
He is the author of The War for Kindness: Building Empathy in a Fractured World.
Jamil’s 2017 TEDxMarin Talk is entitled “BUILDING EMPATHY: How to hack empathy and get others to care more.”
His writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The New Yorker, and The Atlantic.
We talked about how to flex your empathy, art as a performance enhancing drug for empathy, post traumatic growth, and the high wire act of having empathy for those who cause us harm.
The War for Kindness: Building Empathy in a Fractured World
Stanford Social Neuroscience Lab:
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Thanks to my special guest Jamil Zaki. You should get and read his book, The War For Kindness, right now, it is so good.
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