would you like something calming? here. have a conversation with my therapist.
sorry for the double post today, but it’s….podcast time.
i just read all of your comments from this morning’s post, and i just got off a team call; the team is back in action after a well-deserved month off.
we were chatting about whether to “thing” this podcast now or wait until after the inauguration, and we landed on a decision to just put it the fuck out, because who knows what’ll happen in the next few days. and also, everybody needs a Wayne Sigh. what is a Wayne Sigh? you’ll have to listen to learn.
as i say in the intro…i was a little nervous about blending/merging my life like this.
i am no longer nervous.
i fucking love therapy.
there. i said it.
i also decided to do something different with this podcast-thinging, and tell me if you think it works….i am posting the intro as the feature of the post, instead of a photo, so you can listen to what the episode/guest/moment is about. thought it might be a fun way to release these, whet your appetite, and even for those of you who don’t go to listen to the rest of the episode it’s a little bit like a voice ramble 🙂
anyway….the intro tells you everything you need to know about the content of the episode without giving it away, but yes:
it’s a conversation with my therapist, wayne muller.
when i’m telling people about wayne, i often tell the story about how he was working in san francisco in the 1980s at the height of the AIDS epidemic, sitting and ministering at the bedsides of the dying. wayne has seen a lot. wayne knows a lot. wayne feels a lot. i love wayne a lot.
this is wayne.
wayne lives in new mexico and he’s been my therapist for about five years. he’s also my friend. as i wrote on the website….wayne writes about the upsides of making it through trauma, the tricks our minds play, and the power of slowing down. he’s also hilarious. and a minister, and a photographer…and a pretty good guitar player.
the photo in the audio clip is of us in new mexico “backstage” (i.e. outside at a picnic table) rehearsing for a bernie sanders benefit…here’s another one.
i can’t even remember what song we were playing. some of you may have even been there…..anyone here remember? it was something….appropriate to a bernie sanders benefit 🙂
here we are, doing it:
so, anyway, after leading that week-long retreat with him for my patrons, i lured him into the recording studio to talk with him for over an hour about the human condition.
cheapest hour of therapy i ever wangled.
i hope it brings you peace.
that’s what we need at the moment.
since i stupidly forgot to take photos of our actual chat (oops)….here is me and wayne and leslie salmon jones at the omega retreat that we did with those 50 some-odd patrons.
oh my. remember those days?
okay so here we go, as usual
LISTEN TO THE PODCAST and SHARE it, please!…
audio for all of the podcast episodes are embedded on my website, including today’s episode:
go here, select the podcast venue of your choice (i.e. apple podcasts), and click on the most recent episode.
FREE! BECAUSE PATRONAGE!!! YAY!
here’s a screenshot of the podcast on apple music:
more about my guest, WAYNE MULLER…..
Wayne Muller is a minister, therapist, and leadership mentor. And he’s my therapist. He serves as a consultant with community, educational, and healthcare organizations.
Wayne’s books (all of which are excellent, and I can personally recommend) include
(hi. you know who you are.)
Wayne’s books are all available at WayneMuller.com and in the world-world. if you want to contact him about therapy, speaking engagements, or otherwise, his contact form is on his website, and he’s pretty good at getting back to people. he is also in the middle of a move right now, so give him a moment.
The engineer for this interview was Jon Coors, it was recorded at Applehead Studios.
The podcast was produced and edited by FannieCo.
Thanks to team AFP as always for helping put things together….this shit takes a lotta background work.
we’ve attached a pdf of the transcript of the podcast the patreon post. to view it, you can download it by visiting this patreon post on the web
(it’s a hyperlink at the very bottom of the post with a little paper clip attachment symbol next to it!)
KEEP IT GOING….
i started a general wayne/book-club/sign thread here on the shadowbox for anyone who wishes to continue the discussi…..you’re all welcome to head over to the ol’ box, where i’ve started a patron-only post.
this might be a nice place for you folks who met wayne and leslie at omega to wave hi and check in, too….and have some nice group SIGHS.
here’s the thread:
THANK YOU TO ALL YOU PATRONS, FOR SUPPORTING ME, MY TEAM, and THIS PODCAST.
because of you, as usual:
No ads. No sponsors. No rules. No censorship.
and here’s praying that the next 48 hours are just….nice.
——THE NEVER-ENDING AS ALWAYS———
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